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Xanth
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Well thanks 
As for myself... I still work off the premise that like attracts like.
If you're out there expecting to encounter bad stuff, generally you will. |
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WhiteFox
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Expecting bad stuff to happen to you is not the same as saying there's nothing bad out there.
Perhaps like may attract like, but that would mean increasing the chances of bad spirits/situations, rather than being the ONLY reason they appear/happen.
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rainsingingwolf
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Let me try to put it another way:
People always tote about what good things can happen and how fantastic they feel afterward. That's all well and good, but with anything that makes one feel good, there is a risk. If good things can happen, so can bad things.
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Ravenari
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| Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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| rainsingingwolf wrote: | Let me try to put it another way:
People always tote about what good things can happen and how fantastic they feel afterward. That's all well and good, but with anything that makes one feel good, there is a risk. If good things can happen, so can bad things. |
Well said. |
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lightgoddess
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It's very synchronistic that this particular thread rejuvenated this week. I actually sent out an email of concern to a specific pagan e-journal in response to their assertation that 'demons are not real and were created by the Catholic church to keep their members in line'. 
Basically, I said that it irked me to see the greater pagan community spreading all good times and experiences around when there were, in fact, real dangers (or potential dangers) in the work we do. I received a response that said the writer agreed with me, but didn't want to be an alarmist, especially with the n00bs. ?!?!?! Especially with the n00bs? Shouldn't they be the ones being screamed at, 'DON'T PLAY WITH THIS STUFF'???
It just boggles my mind, actually, that there are those out there who would do such a disservice to their students by telling them that nothing can go wrong, ever.
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rainsingingwolf
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| lightgoddess wrote: | | I received a response that said the writer agreed with me, but didn't want to be an alarmist, especially with the n00bs. ?!?!?! Especially with the n00bs? Shouldn't they be the ones being screamed at, 'DON'T PLAY WITH THIS STUFF'??? |
I agree with you.
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Xanth
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| rainsingingwolf wrote: | | People always tote about what good things can happen and how fantastic they feel afterward. That's all well and good, but with anything that makes one feel good, there is a risk. If good things can happen, so can bad things. |
If I could play devil's advocate (hehe) for a second...
Why? |
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WhiteFox
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Why is there a risk, or why do bad things happen if good ones can?
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*smacks Xanth on the back of the head* No! You can't play devil's advocate because we don't believe in no stinking devil!! 
Seriously, though, my take on it is this:
No one actively goes over there with the intentions of 'finding something bad', just like no one goes out with their friends with the intentions of being in a head-on collision with a drunk driver.
Sentient beings with a taste for mischief, fear, or wreaking havoc don't give a flying fuck about what you or I are trying to attract. They'll happily give out those 'good times' vibes to attract us only to try and damage us in some way energetically.
It's really a case of sometimes shit happens and we should be prepared to deal with it or try and fend it off.
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rainsingingwolf
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Because even if it is just you, you are made up of both good and bad.*
*as is everyone else
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aisteach
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| lightgoddess wrote: | No one actively goes over there with the intentions of 'finding something bad', just like no one goes out with their friends with the intentions of being in a head-on collision with a drunk driver.
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Ok, that was pretty much the point I was about to make.
But as I'm tired right now I'm going to belabor the point for a minute.
There's no guarantee a person is safe even in their own home. Behind locked doors, with bars on the windows, an alarm system and remote sentry guns monitoring the access tunnels.
It may be a safer place than most and taking precautions is a reasonable idea.
The street behind my house is lightly traveled and very short, not a lot of room for a car to build up speed. I'm still going to look both ways before I cross it.
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Xanth
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| rainsingingwolf wrote: | | That's all well and good, but with anything that makes one feel good, there is a risk. If good things can happen, so can bad things. |
At the risk of taking you "too literally" here...
What I meant was:
Why does something good always have to come with a risk of something bad happening?
I'll use a little anecdote to explain myself a bit more.
I had a friend back in highschool who swore that if you meditated with your window open... that something evil would come in and possess you.
I always assured her that this isn't the case, but obviously, she never believed me.
I think a lot of this is brought about due to people's association with the physical and the kinds of dangers we face everyday while we live.
Although, yes, I agree that one could say that if you go out looking for trouble on the physical then you can easily find it, but if you're not, the you're going to stay away from it. |
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rainsingingwolf
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| Xanth wrote: |
Why does something good always have to come with a risk of something bad happening? |
I already answered you in my above reply.
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WhiteFox
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| Quote: | | Although, yes, I agree that one could say that if you go out looking for trouble on the physical then you can easily find it, but if you're not, the you're going to stay away from it. |
Sometimes that's true. But you can't make it a GUARANTEE that you'll never run into bad situations if you're not out looking for it.
It's one thing to be fearful of evil spirits coming through an open door. It's quite another to be prepared for the possibility (not that I'm saying I agree with your friend, but it's just to follow the example given).
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rainsingingwolf
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[quote="WhiteFox"] | Quote: | | It's one thing to be fearful of evil spirits ... It's quite another to be prepared for the possibility.... |
I agree.
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